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2026.02.15 (Sun)
la narración me volvió loca, es una disociación constante. pasa de un momento en el presente a contarte algo que pasó hace semanas. y hasta ahí vamos bien, pero se dispersa hacia cinco temas diferentes—anécdotas y preocupaciones de los últimos meses—y justo cuando te tiene lo suficientemente enganchado, de repente vuelve a la escena actual. te hace sentir como que estás dentro de la cabeza del personaje, te perdés imaginándote todo y abruptamente te devuelve a la realidad. me gusta que POR FIN la más sexualmente abierta sea ella, a pesar de tener menos experiencia. marianne es la que dice las cosas directamente, la que siempre le pide a connell que la bese o que le haga cosas de adultos 💜 incluso menciona que se masturba, ES RE IMPORTANTE PARA MÍ porque hasta ahora sólo leí esos detalles subidos de tono por parte del hombre, como si fuera asqueroso o poco femenino que fuera la protagonista quien tuviera esas necesidades e iniciativa. y acá connell no tiene pensamientos sucios sobre ella a pesar de que los demás varones en su entorno sí. extra points for that. PERDÓN CONNELL YO SABÍA QUE NO TENÍA QUE JUZGARTE no es un chico malo, sólo es un poco... lento. he's just a little people pleasing boy. pobrecito. ahora me siento mal por haberlo tratado mal antes de saber su versión de la historia. QUÉ BUENA NARRACIÓN PORQUE SIN CAMBIAR DRÁSTICAMENTE EL POV TE CUENTA LA MISMA ESCENA DOS VECES PARA QUE VEAS CÓMO CADA UNO LO VIVIÓ Y QUE SUS EXPERIENCIAS SON NORMALES. connell siente todo muy intensamente desde una ansiedad social, de ser juzgado tanto por extraños como por quienes ama, y marianne lo siente más despectivamente hacia si misma. normal people? more like they're both victims... ok por qué todos abusan física y emocionalmente de marianne y connell? meu deus... por lo menos la mamá de connell es buena. los demás son todos una mierda terrible, qué horror. #normalpeople sobre la parte en la que ella lo resiente por haberse ido durante el verano y "romper" con ella: me pareció de las mejores partes haber podido sentir el mismo enojo y decepción de marianne, para unas páginas después entender cómo fue todo realmente desde el punto de vista de connell. ella dice "él quiso irse y ver otras personas" y él pensaba "quiero quedarme con vos" 🥲 porque marianne ni siquiera lo dejó empezar a hablar, apenas él le dijo que no podía pagar la renta ella hizo preguntas ("entonces vas a volver a tu casa, no? vas a querer ver a otras personas, no?") que para él se sintieron como indirectas de lo que marianne realmente quería que hiciera, mientras que si él asentía sólo confirmaba las sospechas de marianne de que connell nunca podría amarla y mucho menos elegirla. ahhh typical misunderstanding 🚬 no es culpa de ninguno realmente. a connell le cuesta expresarse y defender sus sentimientos, deja que los demás lo decidan por él, y a marianne le parece irreal la idea de que alguien quiera quedarse con ella para algo más que maltratarla. AH HOW I LOVE OPEN ENDINGS!!!! (sarcasm) ughhhhh. creo que está bien que haya terminado así, inconcluso en realidad, que deje espacio abierto para que una vez más se repita el ciclo en el que ellos se distancian y vuelven. pareciera que es desde un lugar más sano esta vez, pero no pasó mucho tiempo desde el anteúltimo capítulo (7 meses) como para que cambien sus maneras de ser, sus inseguridades. marianne ya me pareció insoportable preguntando por la otra chica. amiga, no te das cuenta de que ese hombre es marianne-sexual? desde que son adolescentes sólo la quiso a ella. hubiera sido poco realista que ella de una vez entendiera eso? no sé. se convirtieron en gente normal, bastante. me gustó tener eso en mente durante todo el libro: son gente normal. así de mal de la cabeza, con esas relaciones asquerosas, con esos estilos de vida, son gente normal. y la gente normal tiene finales inconclusos. porque la vida de la gente normal no tiene un cierre de fantasía en el capítulo veinticinco. continúa con incertidumbre, con miedo, con inseguridad. y pasan cosas buenas (o malas) de por medio, que hacen que uno cambie como persona. más allá de que parezca que sus vidas son oscuras y deprimentes, los detalles dejan ver que también entra luz por la ventana, y queda en ellos absorberla para poder seguir creciendo y no marchitarse.
Marianne, he said, I’m not a religious person but I do sometimes think God made you for me.
OH MY??!!!?!????? goodness
Connell is silent again. He leans down and kisses her on the forehead. I would never hurt you, okay? he says. Never. She nods and says nothing. You make me really happy, he says. His hand moves over her hair and he adds: I love you. I’m not just saying that, I really do. Her eyes fill up with tears again and she closes them. Even in memory she will find this moment unbearably intense, and she’s aware of this now, while it’s happening. She has never believed herself fit to be loved by any person. But now she has a new life, of which this is the first moment, and even after many years have passed she will still think: Yes, that was it, the beginning of my life.
Marianne asked him once if he was ‘ashamed’ of her but she was just joking. That’s funny, he said. Niall thinks I brag about you too much. She loved that. He doesn’t really brag about her as such, though as it happens she is very popular and a lot of other men want to sleep with her. He might brag about her occasionally, but only in a tasteful way.
In a way I like the idea of something so dramatic happening to me. I would like to upset people’s expectations. Do you think I’d be a bad mother? No, you’d be great, obviously. You’re great at everything you do. She smiled. You wouldn’t have to be involved, she said. Well, I would support you, whatever you decided.
She had been sad before, after the film, but now she was happy. It was in Connell’s power to make her happy. It was something he could just give to her, like money or sex. With other people she seemed so independent and remote, but with Connell she was different, a different person. He was the only one who knew her like that.
She comes to sit down with him and he touches her cheek. He has a terrible sense all of a sudden that he could hit her face, very hard even, and she would just sit there and let him. The idea frightens him so badly that he pulls his chair back and stands up. His hands are shaking. He doesn’t know why he thought about it. Maybe he wants to do it. But it makes him feel sick.
On the phone Joanna frequently describes her office, the various characters who work there, the dramas that erupt between them, and it’s as if she’s a citizen of a country Marianne has never visited, the country of paid employment.
me dio risa, joanna being mi amiga lola y yo soy la marianne
They’re different people. Connell thinks the aspects of himself that are most compatible with Helen are his best aspects: his loyalty, his basically practical outlook, his desire to be thought of as a good guy. With Helen he doesn’t feel shameful things, he doesn’t find himself saying weird stuff during sex, he doesn’t have that persistent sensation that he belongs nowhere, that he never will belong anywhere. Marianne had a wildness that got into him for a while and made him feel that he was like her, that they had the same unnameable spiritual injury, and that neither of them could ever fit into the world. But he was never damaged like she was. She just made him feel that way.
I don’t know what’s wrong with me, says Marianne. I don’t know why I can’t be like normal people.
Could he really do the gruesome things he does to her and believe at the same time that he’s acting out of love? Is the world such an evil place, that love should be indistinguishable from the basest and most abusive forms of violence?
Well, here I am on the floor, he thought. Is life so much worse here than it would be on the bed, or even in a totally different location? No, life is exactly the same. Life is the thing you bring with you inside your own head. I might as well be lying here, breathing the vile dust of the carpet into my lungs, gradually feeling my right arm go numb under the weight of my body, because it’s essentially the same as every other possible experience.
He was like a freezer item that had thawed too quickly on the outside and was melting everywhere, while the inside was still frozen solid. Somehow he was expressing more emotion than at any time in his life before, while simultaneously feeling less, feeling nothing.
It was culture as class performance, literature fetishised for its ability to take educated people on false emotional journeys, so that they might afterwards feel superior to the uneducated people whose emotional journeys they liked to read about. Even if the writer himself was a good person, and even if his book really was insightful, all books were ultimately marketed as status symbols, and all writers participated to some degree in this marketing. Presumably this was how the industry made money. Literature, in the way it appeared at these public readings, had no potential as a form of resistance to anything.
If people appeared to behave pointlessly in grief, it was only because human life was pointless, and this was the truth that grief revealed.
He feels like he has ruined the life of everyone who has ever even marginally liked him.
How strange to feel herself so completely under the control of another person, but also how ordinary. No one can be independent of other people completely, so why not give up the attempt, she thought, go running in the other direction, depend on people for everything, allow them to depend on you, why not. She knows he loves her, she doesn’t wonder about that anymore.
But for her the pain of loneliness will be nothing to the pain that she used to feel, of being unworthy. He brought her goodness like a gift and now it belongs to her.