they are tiring. rather than enjoy the music of who they stan, they want arguments and hate comments and pit the members against each other who are living their own lives, leading their own careers. like, i personally listen to tvxq (ot2) because my music preferences are in their music, and that doesn't mean i don't like and that i hate jxj (jaejoong and junsu). they are very talented everyone knows that. but not everything in life is personal, which these people struggle to grasp. with these fans they probably don't have anything to do in life so they resort to making everything an issue. their fandom experience is only complete when they get to rain on someone's parade. i like casual conversations and discussions on music, like which are your fave songs, the songs you don't care about, the artist's quality you love the most, areas for improvement—objective, thoughtful criticism, not to tear someone down. but these people are just so boring and unhappy.